Parrot jesses

[The Pinkertons]

What do you think about these vs. flight harness?

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[Karen]

Dangerous! IMO, Jesses are safe for Hawks because they have muscled legs and are designed to carry prey. I don't believe Parrots have comparable leg strength to make the Jesses safe for them.

[lolsavannahh]

Agreed with Karen.. not good! Parrots do not have the leg strength of a bird of prey and should never have any kind of tether around their ankles... harness for a parrot, leash for a bird of prey.

[Penny]

The idea is interesting, but I'd be worried about the joints on a parrot holding up as well as musculature.

[Macaw Lover]

No, no and no.

Parrots legs are much thinner than the birds of prey these are used for

Did I say NOOOOOOOOOO?

[Casper's 2nd best friend]

Hmmm, is your reasoning based on scientific research or just based on the fact that parrots legs look too skinny? Parrots are quite happy to hang upside down from one foot when they are playing.

[Shyra]

You don't hear about it much anymore but I'm sure a lot of the older experienced parrot owners will remember when people would tether their parrots to their stands or themselves causing all kinds of problems. The tether can cause legs to break, if they take off flying from being spooked or whatever it can also pull their leg right out of the socket. Over the years people have stopped practicing it because of all the dangers. It's a shame someone like him is trying to bring such an awful thing back.

[Casper's 2nd best friend]

Thanks Shyra, I did not know that. I am neither for nor against the use of Jesses at the moment apart from my belief that no bird should be unnecessarily restrained. Were the historical ones elasticated? I imagine the ones in the video (which I watched without having the sound on) are safer because they are like the elastic ropes used by bungy jumpers, gradually stopping rather than jerking. But what happens to a bird that is pulled up when trying to fly away? Does it keep flying whilst remaining stationary on the end of the tether or does it twang back to its perch leaving it surprised and confused?

[The Pinkertons]

Thanks Shyra, I did not know that. I am neither for nor against the use of Jesses at the moment apart from my belief that no bird should be unnecessarily restrained. Were the historical ones elasticated? I imagine the ones in the video (which I watched without having the sound on) are safer because they are like the elastic ropes used by bungy jumpers, gradually stopping rather than jerking. But what happens to a bird that is pulled up when trying to fly away? Does it keep flying whilst remaining stationary on the end of the tether or does it twang back to its perch leaving it surprised and confused? Good point :th_smile:

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Thanks Shyra, I did not know that. I am neither for nor against the use of Jesses at the moment apart from my belief that no bird should be unnecessarily restrained. Were the historical ones elasticated? I imagine the ones in the video (which I watched without having the sound on) are safer because they are like the elastic ropes used by bungy jumpers, gradually stopping rather than jerking. But what happens to a bird that is pulled up when trying to fly away? Does it keep flying whilst remaining stationary on the end of the tether or does it twang back to its perch leaving it surprised and confused? Good Point :th_wink: :doublepost::darn:

[The Pinkertons]

Thanks Shyra, I did not know that. I am neither for nor against the use of Jesses at the moment apart from my belief that no bird should be unnecessarily restrained. Were the historical ones elasticated? I imagine the ones in the video (which I watched without having the sound on) are safer because they are like the elastic ropes used by bungy jumpers, gradually stopping rather than jerking. But what happens to a bird that is pulled up when trying to fly away? Does it keep flying whilst remaining stationary on the end of the tether or does it twang back to its perch leaving it surprised and confused?:th_hmmm: Interesting

[Shyra]

Jean-Pierre

I do not know. I know of few birds who have survived (well actually I don't know of any but would like to think some have) after having their legs pulled out of the hip socket so would not take the chance.

[bill-e]

My entire reason for buying a Pak-O-Bird is so that I could enjoy Nike outside and that other's could as well. If I thought any of the tethering devices were actually something that I could use I would have gone that way but I think that they are either dangerous or require too much training or are just not going to be tolerated by Nike.

[bill-e]

If thise wouldn't make me look foolish I would have ordered one to try as well ;)

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[The Pinkertons]

My entire reason for buying a Pak-O-Bird is so that I could enjoy Nike outside and that other's could as well. If I thought any of the tethering devices were actually something that I could use I would have gone that way but I think that they are either dangerous or require too much training or are just not going to be tolerated by Nike. Good Point ...And by the way I really love Nike's Back Pack. Would come in handy in an emergency situation also. I took a look at the website and saw they have a carrier for 2 birds and can be customized as well, after looking at yours I'm seriously thinking about investing in it. It's an investment worth investing in. Pardon the pun.

[The Pinkertons]

If thise wouldn't make me look foolish I would have ordered one to try as well ;)

[Users must be registered and logged in to view attached photos or hyperlinks] Your right that's silly looking ...Looks a sidecar on a motorcycle. If I had a bird on my shoulder out in the open, Then I would use a harness or the jesses. Keeping the bird closely leashed to my body to prevent fright flight.

[The Pinkertons]

Hmmm, is your reasoning based on scientific research or just based on the fact that parrots legs look too skinny? Parrots are quite happy to hang upside down from one foot when they are playing. Very interesting deduction :23_11_52: