Bird is the word..

[Mare]

How many here, would own a bird after knowing what you know?

[Mare]

If I had had any idea of what I was getting into, when taking on Amigo,,my choice would have been NO, NEVER..EVerrr..but as we grew, I couldn't imagine life without him and the other parts of our bird family :)

[plax]

Oh I definitely would! My guys are worth everything to me!! But if I had the opportunity to do it over, I would NOT create a bird forum site (or even become a member on a bird board), because of the high potential for crushing negatives ahead from merely trying to do what's right :(

[Pinkbirdy]

I would not have changed a thing :) I bet Dave would have thought twice at insisting to bring home our African grey.If he could have seen into the future :) LOL I love it, things are not boring .

[Mare]

I know what you mean, Tony. When you get knocked down you've got to jump up, dust yourself off and keep on keepin' on! :)

Terri, is Dave good with you having all those birds? My Tim has finally settled into the realization that the birds are here to stay. I'm trying to figure out a way to sneak another one in, do you think he would notice a macaw :th_biggrin: ?

[Macaw Lover]

Oh I definitely would! My guys are worth everything to me!! But if I had the opportunity to do it over, I would NOT create a bird forum site (or even become a member on a bird board), because of the high potential for crushing negatives ahead from merely trying to do what's right :(

There will come a time when it will not hurt as much. Any breakup needs a time to heal. What really helps the pain is when people have other things to fill up that void - you just don't think of it as much. I have a better understanding when a friend told me that 'most' guys won't leave one woman for another until they have another already lined up. And it is so true. For the rest of the guys who don't have another one lined up, that is why they will find some else the very next day, they can avoid the pain of not thinking of it but use that energy to focus on other things.

Tony, you need to find something to focus your energies on so that you don't self destruct as your babies need the great Dad they have. You have to do it for them.

[Mare]

Very wise words, Renee'. There is great pain in people turning against you.

[plax]

I think the most disturbing element is the point of disagreement. The lack of sincere due diligence to protect birds from harm on the part of the individuals involved truly bothers me. And then the denial by said individuals that their due diligence has been nonexistent serves to intensify the matter. Finally, the false assertions spread about me that I've been dishonest, purely intended to win over members and draw them away to another board, and the prioritization of setting those false assertions well above the inciting bird protection issue -which is what should matter the most to folks- is something that will never fade for me. So it's not a matter of my feelings being hurt... it's a matter of the willful disregard for helping birds avert brutal attack, and the ensuing denial and coverup for selfish ends that's so very crushing :(

[Macaw Lover]

Oh I totally understand Tony. It makes you angry when people twist things to suit their purposes. Saw that in a divorce. I think lawyers are the best at it. Look around and notice how lawyers will twist things to save their clients butts and it is almost a game to them, to see if they can 'win'. I wonder how some of them can even sleep at night knowing they mess with peoples lives so much.

For all the hurt, betrayal, you are the one who needs rise above it before it destroys you. You are the master of your own happiness and if a person doesn't have happiness in their lives, they are not happy people within themselves and no one should live like that. You are at a crossroads right now with this. It is your choice right now to either allow it to destroy you or rise from the ashes like a Phoenix and become an even greater person. I hope you choose to become a Phoenix and I know Jack, Maynard, Zaffer and Salsa are rooting for that also.



FYI - I watched a couple of your older videos of Salsa and he/she (sorry, don't know which) looks like a real sweetie pie.

[plax]

Oh I totally understand Tony. It makes you angry when people twist things to suit their purposes. Saw that in a divorce. I think lawyers are the best at it. Look around and notice how lawyers will twist things to save their clients butts and it is almost a game to them, to see if they can 'win'. I wonder how some of them can even sleep at night knowing they mess with peoples lives so much.I feel the same, Renee'


For all the hurt, betrayal, you are the one who needs rise above it before it destroys you. You are the master of your own happiness and if a person doesn't have happiness in their lives, they are not happy people within themselves and no one should live like that. You are at a crossroads right now with this. It is your choice right now to either allow it to destroy you or rise from the ashes like a Phoenix and become an even greater person. I hope you choose to become a Phoenix and I know Jack, Maynard, Zaffer and Salsa are rooting for that also.I'm sorry. But I can't release my ill feelings toward those whose willful disregard for protection practices may result in unimaginable agony, terror, and brutal death for innocent companion birds. I just can't! There's little worse in our world than being a contributor to such horror for lack of action :(. It's the primary issue in this matter and it will never fade for me, largely because I see the same sort of apathetic attitudes (in varying degrees) every single day on the Internet. It's simply egregious and inexcusable in my view :(

But I can forgive the regular members. And that's because, while they probably believe otherwise, many of them likely don't understand what has actually happened within the course of this matter, or why. Unfortunately that may never change... and I understand and accept this.




FYI - I watched a couple of your older videos of Salsa and he/she (sorry, don't know which) looks like a real sweetie pie.Salsa is a "he" and he is a dear and amazing bird :). Each day he makes me laugh so much! He's truly the clown of the family :D

[plax]

This has been a bit of a hijack upon Mare's thread - I'm sorry for that, Mare. So lets turn it back to the question of whether or not we would have pursued our bird acquisitions if we knew then what we know now :)


EDIT: I should have added that the thread hijacking I speak of was exclusively my doing... no one else's! So I apologize.

[Pinkbirdy]

I know what you mean, Tony. When you get knocked down you've got to jump up, dust yourself off and keep on keepin' on! :)

Terri, is Dave good with you having all those birds? My Tim has finally settled into the realization that the birds are here to stay. I'm trying to figure out a way to sneak another one in, do you think he would notice a macaw :th_biggrin: ? Hi Mare :). I think Dave secretly loves it. Hes responsible for one on one time with the Ekkie boys ,Ls2 and our Grey. He goes into the room to give everyone treats everyday.Dave even trys to play with Pearl !! I just went to a bird fair . They had a M2 ,Dave was holding while I ran around buying one of everything :) . I came back and the M2 was now on his shoulder [cheek to cheek]. They just love Dave [but he doesn't want the everyday responsibility]. He likes they attention we get when we go somewhere with them [I don't]. I took Harlow to this place were their was waterfalls for pictures [and we were mobbed by people ]. I think he realizes Im going to do what I want. He becomes very attached to them when they come home. I think Tim would notice Amigo hanging on the side of the new Macaws cage. With his crest up screaming "Who the hell are you" LOL

[kendrafitz]

Terri - Ha ha!! What an awesome visual of Amigo!!!!

[2birds]

I think Tim would notice Amigo hanging on the side of the new Macaws cage. With his crest up screaming "Who the hell are you" LOL

LOL That's exactly what would happen.

[2birds]

I don't think I would change anything. My birds are fairly new to me but I love them and don't see myself getting tired of it. I lived with birds when I was a kid but that was different, they were my moms birds. I think I read just about everything I could get my hands on about them, and honestly, what I found was a lot of discouragement. I went into this with eyes wide open. My guys are great and a lot of fun but I'll have to say, I can see where parrots wouldn't be for everyone.

[Mare]

Oh my god, yeah I think you're right Terri! :). Amigo would be way worse than Tim! Tim also secretly loves the birds. Although he would NEVER admit it. Amigo was a brutal introduction to parrots, for Tim. He is a kind, caring man and truly a lover of all animals and children. He and Sassy have a thing going, it's really sweet :).

I agree, Lori! Parrots aren't for everyone. It is amazing, though, how they grow on you!

[Macaw Lover]

Definitely! I had better say that especially with having Jody since '89. I think the only thing I would do different is not waiting as long as I did in adding another little baby. I had been wanting to add another little birdie but worried how Jody would like it as she had been an only child for so many years. When I found Kalea I asked Jody if it would be ok with her if she came to join us and I brought her home. Kalea joined us in Dec of '06.

[Mare]

Renee', can you fill in the blank of what parrots you have? Are they all macaws?

[jtbirds]

I would never trade the life with these guys that i have made. And honestly i always wanted a bird and got plenty!:). Wouldn't change a thing.

[Macaw Lover]

Renee', can you fill in the blank of what parrots you have? Are they all macaws? Yes Mare, they are all Macaws

[kendrafitz]

My answer is complicated.

The easy answer is yes, I love my girl very much and she brings a lot of joy into my life. As I type this I am lying on my couch and she is on the couch arm grinding her beak getting sleepy. I love hearing this and knowing she is happy, content and loved.

However, there are so many stresses I never anticipated. I thought I did, but I was wrong. The mess I can live with but it makes Jef nuts. The lack of personal time/space is difficult. I do not even shower without her. Her attachment to me leads to screaming for me which annoys everyone. These things are stressors in our daily family life.

Would I ever consider rehoming Rosie? Absolutely not! But if she wasn't my baby and I didn't know how much I would love her, I am not sure if I would do it all over again. Life would certainly be neater, easier and less complicated if we hadn't met. But then again it wouldn't be such an adventure either.

That is the most honest answer I can give. But please know I adore my girl and she will be my partner in goofiness for the rest of our lives.

[Mare]

It's amazing how they change our lives! Mine took a 180 degree turn when Amigo came into the picture. I thought, "well, it's just a bird" when asked to take him on. Holy Moly, was I ever wrong!! I think that forums are a wonderful place for folks looking to bring a bird into their life, to start. They can ask questions, get feed-back and then think. On the other hand...I wouldn't have taken Amigo in,,I would have said NO WAY! So,,in a way,,ignorance can be bliss! :th_biggrin:

[Minamommy]

I would do it. I would jump in with both feet again again. She can put a a mile on my face that no one else can. I'll take every bite,every screaming every ****ty day no pun indented. She didn't ask for a caged life. So as guardian(mommy😊) I'm going to free he from it as much as possible. Hopefully she is as happy as she makes me.


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[Lady]

Wow, I have always found companion birds beautiful and exciting. I feel that someday, I will know Lady well enough to be able to read her body language as well as many of you here already do with yours. I am grateful for the new learning techniques and the forum where it can be explained and shown that they really work. Someday I think I would like to get another bird as a friend for her. But that seems a long way off for now.